UPDATE 31st January, 2013 - WHY ENGLISH HERITAGE SHOULD LOOK AGAIN AT ITS PART IN THE DEMISE OF HORNSEY GAS HOLDER NO.1
News has reached us that the earlier example of the Cutler Patent gas holder in Tunbridge Wells, held up as the more important surviving example of this internationally significant industrial heritage has ..... been "demolished". http://highbroomssociety.wordpress.com/tag/tunbridge-wells-gas-company/
Haringey council was quick to support the demise of its own heritage on the basis that a more important example survived elsewhere. Now this has gone, wouldn't you expect English Heritage to look again at the Victorian Society's call for Hornsey Gas Holder No.1 to be listed and protected.
You could not find a better place or opportunity to develop something truly innovative from such a well loved landmark; something that will celebrate the our industrial and design heritage and put Wood Green (and Haringey) on the 'best in class' map of urban regeneration. We should not forget so easily how our borough was built with the most modern of technologies and how industry and community existed site by side as partners in their community. Should we not fight to save this old friend.
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Roger Kemp writes:
Decision time for Heartlands arrived on the evening of 22 September. And Heartlands has been granted Outline planning permission.
In stark contrast to the meeting when Coronation Sidings, this meeting only had 10 people in the public gallery, not standing room only as it had been for the earlier meeting. Which is odd when we were told that Heartlands is the current biggest planning Application in the Borough.
The meeting started with Councillor Whyte asking for the decision to be deferred as an enquiry was starting on Friday 23 September into the question of employment areas. If I understand the position correctly, her point was that the result of that six-week enquiry could affect the way employment areas are viewed locally, and may change the policy to a greater or lesser degree. She was rudely put down by the Legal representative as if she did not know what she is talking about. Councillor Whyte is a practising lawyer. And manners cost nothing. She was told that as the enquiry was into other sites it was of no relevance. This was characteristic of the meeting in which every effect was made to push the application through.
The Planners took a long while making their presentation. During this they made several amendments without, as far as I know, giving any prior notice. These included admitting that the residential blocks would be higher than previously stated because of the lift housing, but they emphasised it would not be a complete storey. But are we being told the complete story? The Planners came across as evasive. Throughout the meeting there were instances of people being arrogant and/or patronising.
The gas holders are to go because English Heritage will not list them. They ignored the fact that the holders had been listed locally until fairly recently. They do not want to keep them as it would be too costly – the tank underneath has to be emptied etc. The applicant denied it had anything to do with money.
The Moselle brook will remain covered. This, it was said, because it was too deep, too polluted . When they were told it had been opened elsewhere, that the Environment Agency, in charge of rivers, wanted it opened, then they said there was no room. They did not say it would cost too much.
They admitted that at least 2 houses in Hornsey Park Road would be moderately affected by shadowing, and 1 house slightly less, but said this was insufficient reason to stop the works. (No mention about just altering what was causing the overshadowing).
They said that the site had to be intensively developed because of the requirements of the London Plan. They also said that the applicant was subject to approval by the Mayor.
They admitted that the provision for open space was a lot less than it should be, but said that Alexandra Park was close by (is it really?), and that money from the Planning agreement would be spent on nearby open spaces.
The current main employer on the trading estate will have to be relocated. They employ about 80 people. Their landlord will try and find them another location within the Borough, otherwise the jobs will be lost. The new site will create some jobs but apparently a lot of the employment opportunities will be outside the site. When pressed on this (like trying to nail down jelly), both the Planners and Applicant were, at best, very vague.
It sounds as though the future residents of the new development will not have car parking permits – someone said that. But then, it is anticipated that most of them will have no cars. I wonder if that will be right. They intend to have 1,200 cycle spaces and it came out that is planned to be one for each resident. I, in my ignorance, had thought that with proposed maximum of 1080 residential units, it was likely to be about 2,000 residents. But no, it will be half that. And all will be travelling around on pedal bikes. We are going to be living in Amsterdam. They are trying to get two bus routes into the site. The vehicle access will be mainly on Mary Neuner Way. There will be pedestrian access from Hornsey Park Road.
There will be money for a health centre. The Applicant will speak to the Primary Care Trust to see if they are interested. If not the money can be used elsewhere for health ; quite how was no revealed.
The view from Ally Pally was discussed and now they are trying to say that the blocks may not be like a cliff-face, but may be broken up. When they were raised with their architect he was a lot more vague and said that they could do what they wanted, providing it was within the footprint of the Application.
One Councillor thought that an Outline Planning application was very general and only dealt with things like access to the site. Quite worrying that such people are the decision-makers.
Thanks to Marcus , Colin Marr and the others for putting up such a noble fight.
At the end of the meeting Councillor Bob Hare tabled a resolution that the Application should be rejected for various reasons which he carefully specified. He gained the support of some other councillors, but lost the resolution.
The main vote took place, and it was granted Outline Planning permission, but with a pretty slim majority.
One Councillor managed to vote for both resolutions i.e. For and Against the Application.
So we may sleep soundly, reassured that our future interests are being protected by capable people.
(by Roger Kemp via the comments)
Please read on for the Residents Associations concerns regarding the development:
Departmentof Culture Media and Sport (DCMS) -Principles of Selection for Listing Buildings 2010
“The historic environment embraces all those aspects of the country that reflect the shaping hand of human history. Our understanding of the historic environment now encompasses a much wider range of features, and in particular stresses the relationship between individual buildings, and also the value of historic townscape and landscape as a whole. There is growing appreciation not just ofthe architectural set pieces, but of many more structures, especially industrial, agricultural and other vernacular buildings that, although sometimes individually unassuming, collectively reflect some of the most distinctive and creative aspects of English history. Where a building qualifies for listing primarily on the strength of its special architectural interest, the fact that there are other buildings of similar quality elsewhere is not likely to be a major consideration. However, a building may be listed primarily because it represents a particular historical type in order to ensure that examples ofsuch a type are preserved. ”
There are agreat many reasons why the Officer’s Report is, in our view poor and reaches the wrong conclusion. Marc Dorfmann asked those at the August Development Control Forum to write with their concerns, to enable officers to understand and put to the applicant. Manifestly, neither have been done and the Officer’s opinions at that time have not been responded to by the applicant or reflected in the work of Officers.
We wouldask that Officers are now asked to address our concerns rigorously and that the PSC does its best to protect the area from this poor scheme and so help Wood Green reach its full potential in future.
Yours sincerely
MarcusBallard
Chair –Parkside Malvern Residents Association
Life on Hornsey Park Road has been plagued with problems including noise, pollution and crumbling pavements, on top of this there appears to be a lack of strategic vision for the future. Council Leader Peray Ahmet and a few of her fellow councillors came to discuss the issues with our representatives.
Eight of us got out before the rain last Saturday. We cut back a lot of growth at the Lavender Garden ready for winter. Most of what we cleared has now gone down for composting. By John Miles
The loss of trees is becoming an issue locally. The wonderful false acacia at the junction of Mayes Road and Coburg Road was removed because it ‘had a fungus’ - just in time for the planning application to build on the petrol station site beside it.
Photo: The gardening team – John. Ben, Polly and John – out on a Saturday morning
Sometime in the next week or so the work on Mayes Road will near completion. It will be a new benchmark for the look and feel of our neighbourhood and enhance its biodiversity. (photo: Luke 'Duke' Newcombe)
© Parkside Malvern Residents Association